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		By: Nick the Geek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-20080&quot;&gt;Samson&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting question. I think it missing the concept of the Trinity and the whole point of redemption. Based on your response I assume that you don&#039;t want to buy into the Bible, but if it&#039;s ok with you I&#039;d like to start there. It says that Christ was sacrificed from the foundations of the Earth. In other words, the plan was, from the beginning, to clean up the mess through Christ. Could God have done things differently, sure, but He didn&#039;t.  In Romans 9 Paul tells us that God gets to decide the best purpose because He is the Potter and we are the clay. 

Of course, that is all coming from the Bible, so lets looks at real world examples.  Lets say a billionaire has a wayward son. He certainly doesn&#039;t want his son to get into trouble constantly, but his son is free to do what he wished. Now, lets say his son gets arrested and the father sends an advocate (lawyer) to plead the case for his son, and pays the fines. If the advocate is sent by the father and does his will, does that lessen the power of the father? Does being able to send others make someone less powerful?  While we might second guess the father, saying that he should be the one to go, it doesn&#039;t address the actual abilities of the father in this case by sending someone to resolve the issue.

Of course, I can go further into this, but I think the point is clear, this is an argument against the sovereignty and power of God that doesn&#039;t actually stand up to even the most basic of scrutiny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-20080">Samson</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting question. I think it missing the concept of the Trinity and the whole point of redemption. Based on your response I assume that you don&#8217;t want to buy into the Bible, but if it&#8217;s ok with you I&#8217;d like to start there. It says that Christ was sacrificed from the foundations of the Earth. In other words, the plan was, from the beginning, to clean up the mess through Christ. Could God have done things differently, sure, but He didn&#8217;t.  In Romans 9 Paul tells us that God gets to decide the best purpose because He is the Potter and we are the clay. </p>
<p>Of course, that is all coming from the Bible, so lets looks at real world examples.  Lets say a billionaire has a wayward son. He certainly doesn&#8217;t want his son to get into trouble constantly, but his son is free to do what he wished. Now, lets say his son gets arrested and the father sends an advocate (lawyer) to plead the case for his son, and pays the fines. If the advocate is sent by the father and does his will, does that lessen the power of the father? Does being able to send others make someone less powerful?  While we might second guess the father, saying that he should be the one to go, it doesn&#8217;t address the actual abilities of the father in this case by sending someone to resolve the issue.</p>
<p>Of course, I can go further into this, but I think the point is clear, this is an argument against the sovereignty and power of God that doesn&#8217;t actually stand up to even the most basic of scrutiny.</p>
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		By: Samson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[......hmmmmm, If nothing is too hard for God -- then why did he send his son( Jesus ), to clean up his mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;hmmmmm, If nothing is too hard for God &#8212; then why did he send his son( Jesus ), to clean up his mess.</p>
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		By: Nick the Geek		</title>
		<link>https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick the Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-827&quot;&gt;Sherry Meneley&lt;/a&gt;.

I do a sex and relationship series every year or less.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-827">Sherry Meneley</a>.</p>
<p>I do a sex and relationship series every year or less.</p>
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		By: Sherry Meneley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good for you! We did a series two years ago, called &quot;naked&quot; - same content.  Lots of good small group time.  Kids need to hear about this stuff from the right people and feel comfortable to ask questions.  Thanks for being brave!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you! We did a series two years ago, called &#8220;naked&#8221; &#8211; same content.  Lots of good small group time.  Kids need to hear about this stuff from the right people and feel comfortable to ask questions.  Thanks for being brave!</p>
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		By: Nick the Geek		</title>
		<link>https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-826</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-825&quot;&gt;bman&lt;/a&gt;.

Crazy Love is great but you gotta be warned, some parts make you feel pretty miserable. If you don&#039;t use the first chapters to interpret the following chapters then you will misunderstand the intent. Keep that in mind as you read. I didn&#039;t catch it till my second time through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nickgeek.com/the-power-of-christ-for-the-hopeless/#comment-825">bman</a>.</p>
<p>Crazy Love is great but you gotta be warned, some parts make you feel pretty miserable. If you don&#8217;t use the first chapters to interpret the following chapters then you will misunderstand the intent. Keep that in mind as you read. I didn&#8217;t catch it till my second time through.</p>
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		By: bman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a cool study and will hopefully continue to be well received.  A group I&#039;m in is about to start Crazy Love and I&#039;m excited because of the reviews you gave of it a while back.  I can&#039;t wait.

Good post, Nick!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a cool study and will hopefully continue to be well received.  A group I&#8217;m in is about to start Crazy Love and I&#8217;m excited because of the reviews you gave of it a while back.  I can&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p>Good post, Nick!</p>
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