24 Comments to “The Camouflage Shrub Angel Squad”

  1. katdish

    Dec 18th, 2009

    When you get an idea, I think it's a good idea to simply write without really thinking about whether or not you're being too descriptive or not descriptive enough. It's in the editing process that you begin to tighten things up and streamline the story.

    There will be parts of the story that you love, but some of them will have to be left on the editing room floor so to speak.

    Best writing advice I've ever read? – "Omit useless words."

    Say more with less and let the reader fill in some of the word pictures.

    Very imaginative story.
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    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 18th, 2009

      Are there specific useless words in this? I actually wrote it quickly and got it all down before deciding to make this a writing experiment. I filled out the story by giving "Mark" an actual part where before he simply said a prayer and didn't even have a name. I added the commander, who is Jesus if you didn't catch it, and gave two of the CSAS names and one some back story. Then I added descriptive detail for the deck and a new segment because I felt it was action lacking (the highway part). The essence of the story doesn't need any of that but I don't know that it is "useless."

      So the question is, what should I do, if anything, to tighten it up. It sounds like I did well with description, though a bit on the superfluous side. I have removed one statement based on cjcanada's advice. Anything else you would recommend cutting or rewording in a more concise manner?

      • Wendy

        Dec 18th, 2009

        I didn't get that the commander was Jesus at all. Looked back and read it again and still don't see it. Maybe it's just me. Also, I spent a bit of time just trying to figure out what all the initials stood for. Still no idea. It got to the point that I found it distracting. Okay, I'm a bit OCD when it comes to stuff like that. But I do like the story. It's very 'This Present Darkness' which I think is a good thing.

        So, will there be more?
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        • Nick the Geek

          Dec 18th, 2009

          Maybe I was too subtle, Hair like a mane (lion of Judah) and radiated light as the sun (son and also a reference to description of the new Jerusalem where God would be the light) while the others were as planets which don't generate light but actually reflect light. I tried to not be blatant but for the description to make it noticeable when someone knew. I might need to rework that.

          I had defined the acronyms but I was playing on military-ese where these things aren't spoken like Spanish on playtime Disney. I think all of the acronyms are spelled out at some point but maybe I should clear it up.

          CSAS is the Camouflage Shrub Angel Squad, which is in the title.
          HOP is Hedge of Protection as prayed by Mark (that was more obscure)
          CP is Child Protection which is short for Child Protection Detail (didn't show up in this version) or CPD. The actual phrase is used after the Commander says CP and before Clip thinks about his gear.

          I think that is all the acronyms and I hope it helps your OCD until I figure out how to address them better within story.

      • katdish

        Dec 18th, 2009

        For example:
        First paragraph might read:

        Awakened by the screaming of the alarm clock, Mark hit the snooze button for the second time as he sat up in bed. It seemed the sun was sleeping in on this cold morning as he remembered the reason for his early awakening – a meeting he could not miss. After a steaming shower cleared the last vestiges of sleep, Mark got dressed, straightened his tie and kissed his still dozing bride. Fresh cup of coffee in hand, he picked up his keys and briefcase and headed for the door, then stopped. He remembered he didn’t take time to pray.

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        • Nick the Geek

          Dec 18th, 2009

          Ok, so more than anything I need to work on flow. I was working on a redraft of this first segment to eliminate the short punchy sentences much like what you presented. I found I was using a lot of gerunds which I would prefer to avoid as well. I see how I might better combine the two extremes into an easier to read, flowing story.

          Thanks.

          • bman

            Dec 19th, 2009

            Something to keep in mind is that you should utilize both sentence styles as you write to communicate the feeling you're trying to get across. In a moment of stress or action, you want short, staccato sentences to keep the action moving quickly. Long sentences drag action down.

  2. Bridget

    Dec 18th, 2009

    Great descriptions… I like the 'vestiges of sleep' comment… Nice job, Nick.

    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 18th, 2009

      Thanks, is there anything you think should be cut? As a writer I'm sure you are familiar with removing the fat from a story.

      • Bridget

        Dec 18th, 2009

        katdish is right… it is always good to use 'less words', but to tell you which ones to cut is a tough one.
        You painted a great picture/scene… but remember that your 'readers' like to imagine some of it in their own minds and don't need every detail described to them.
        There is not one particular part I would change, I'd just see if any of the 'descriptive' words feel like overkill to you… the author…

  3. Helen

    Dec 18th, 2009

    Nick, I really like the story. I am with cjcanada in that you described more detail than I would have liked, but I get that you are working on becoming more detailed, and so are now likely to dip into the other extreme. I am sure you will find a balance. In fact, since you consider description to be your weakness, I would continue with practicing overdescribing for a little while, until description feels more natural to you.

    I am not feeling my best today, so please excuse me if I don't make as much sense as I think I do.
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    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 18th, 2009

      you make plenty of sense, well as much as usual. I enjoyed writing some of the descriptive segments but I also need to know what to edit down after the fact. I guess for now I have a multistep process, which is why I don't know if I'll ever be a published writer. Write the story, make the story descriptive and then whittle down everything that doesn't belong. Of course I think I've read where one of my favorite writers does much the same thing.

      I removed one part, is there anything else you would cut or rewrite to be more to the point? Is there anything I should describe in more detail, such as the ready room or the Angels themselves?

  4. cjcanada

    Dec 18th, 2009

    Nick very good. One critical comment. you write a bit like Tolkien in that you spend a lot of ink describing very simple things. It is nice intermittently but not for every scene. (Pronunciation of words, etc.) Just a thought.

    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 18th, 2009

      Thanks. Normally I struggle with being descriptive so for this writing experiment I dialed it up. To be honest I was worried I needed more detail. So you think describing how a key acronym is pronounced is a bit much on detail or would you just say that combined with everything else it put it over the top?

      • cjcanada

        Dec 18th, 2009

        lt is what knocked it out of the park for me. I think that unless the pronunciation somehow affects the story in some way down the line that things like that should be left for the reader, because rather than help, it distracted me.

        I don't want to discourage you , but unless you are writing a movie script, l, as a reader, like to be able to make up the details to some extent also.

        • Nick the Geek

          Dec 18th, 2009

          Excellent, this is exactly the kind of criticism I'm looking for. I am not exactly tied to or invested i this story since it is more of an experiment to help with my descriptive skills, but also to help me learn the right balance.

          Consider that part gone.

        • bman

          Dec 19th, 2009

          Actually, even if you were writing a screenplay, the Director wouldn't want you (the lowly writer) to be interpreting things for him. That's his job. And, I'm in agreement with cj, unless it's important to the script… CUT IT OUT (There's got to be an emoticon way of doing the Full House version of that…).
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    Dec 18th, 2009

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  6. bman

    Dec 19th, 2009

    Nick, I'm going to level with you. I'm going to take all of this and edit it down. One of the most important (and bettering) things you can do as a writer is actually to ELIMINATE adjectives wherever possible. They are the crutch of the writing world, and your writing will be better if you can INSTEAD use stronger verbs and active sentences.

    For instance:
    You wrote: "Mark awoke to the screaming alarm clock."
    Better: "The alarm clock screamed. Mark's eyes fluttered open."

    And, I won't lie to you, it sucks to rewrite sentences like that because it's hard, but it's sooo good for your writing.

    Before I leave to go edit your story to MY liking and send it to you (Do you have Google Wave?), I need to post the most humorously mispunctuated sentence I read. (hehe)

    "He picked up his waiting keys and briefcase as he walked out the door and then stopped remembering to pray."

    Oh no! He stopped remembering to pray!? That's no good. Sounds like a one-way ticket to H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks.

    haha. Enough laughing at your expense, and time to get out my EDITING SWORD!

    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 19th, 2009

      Thanks for the feedback, I will work on rewriting that. The missing coma was repaired in my draft at the suggestion of someone else already, but, um, yeah. I do have google wave, I've even giving away invites. I'll dm u.

  7. Steph @RedClay

    Dec 19th, 2009

    You know, I actually liked all the description, especially of heaven. But I'm a fan of Tom Clancy too. ;)

    What I did find distracting was some redundancy in your descriptions. Example: He jumped from bed racing to get ready. "Jumped" implies racing. So you don't need both. I've always heard that if you can use a strong verb, you don't need so much else to strengthen it.

    Another example: "enormous beings that radiate light" It seems like you could come up with less awkward descriptions. They're essentially man-like, so I wouldn't use "beings." And "that radiate light" -besides the slight error in verb tense- seems like it could be reworked more elegantly. If you described how the light would pulsate/flicker/twinkle if seen by a casual observer, that might give it more action too.

    That all being said, I LIKED the story. Totally drew me in. Everything, from the description of their descent to the passing battle in traffic, was really fun to read. And the payoff, while not super climactic, made me want more.

    (Also, I'd totally tell the reader how to pronounce CSAS too. I'd just wait till later, maybe next chapter, where you can intro a character who misunderstands or mispronounces it and needs it explained.)

    Keep this up, Nick! I think you've got something here.
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    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 19th, 2009

      Have I mentioned I'm a Clancy fan or did you just infer that from my writing style? I am currently working on expanding this story and have written another section. I am planning a character that is new to the battlefront so some concepts can be explained, that might be a good time to pronounce the word.

      "Man I am so excited to be in C.S.A.S"

      "Hey kid, good to have you, around here we just call it seesas"

  8. Candy

    Dec 19th, 2009

    I had to read this through a couple of times, because the story is written in a genre that I am not familiar enough with to critique. (Read: I'm old). I missed the commander being Jesus on the first pass. I think descriptions need to be more concise so the reader will feel amidst the story. I caught the "stopped remembering to pray" line, too, and was waiting for that line to come back toward the end of the chapter in a haunting sort of way.

    I'm growing curious, and want to keep reading. It's a great start! I prefer shorter sentences, but tend to write very long ones myself, so I understand how that happens. I have a hard time separating thoughts into two or more sentences.
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    • Nick the Geek

      Dec 19th, 2009

      Yeah, I'm rarely that wordy. Brian Russel and Sarah have given me some great help in wording things and also a few other important concepts. I knew I asked the right group of people for criticism.


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